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here's senator lindsey graham trying to, as usual, tying it to benghazi to make the point the administration is letting its guard down. he's always talking about benghazi. now he's tying it to boston with benghazi. this has become almost an m.o. with him. let's watch. >> something's not right here. i don't want to be judgmental, but i want to make sure that we're safe. >> yeah. >> between benghazi and boston, we're going backward in national security. this adds administration is letting its guard down and it's beginning to show. >> well, more aggressive and more partisan still is republican congressman tom cotton today. he went further. he compared the record of the last four years under president obama negatively to that of president george w. bush. interesting choice there. let's listen to his conclusion. >> in barely four years in office, five jihadists have reached their targets in the united states under barack obama. the boston marathon bomber, the underwear bomber, the times square bomber, the ft. hood shooter, and in my own state, the little rock recruiting office shooter. in over se
here's senator lindsey graham trying to, as usual, tying it to benghazi to make the point the administration is letting its guard down. he's always talking about benghazi. now he's tying it to boston with benghazi. this has become almost an m.o. with him. let's watch. >> something's not right here. i don't want to be judgmental, but i want to make sure that we're safe. >> yeah. >> between benghazi and boston, we're going backward in national security. this adds administration...
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we'll talk to senator lindsey graham about this. he is coming up later this hour. bill: meanwhile, martha, a lawyer for tamerlan's widow, american widow is assisting and cooperating in the investigation. her family, the russell family in massachusetts, struggling to come to terms with his alleged involvement. this statement released through her attorney just late yesterday. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. as a mother, a sister, a daughter, a wife, katie deeply mourns the pain and loss to innocent victims, students, law enforcement officers, families, and our community. in the aftermath of this tram did i she, her daughter, and her family are trying to come to terms with this event. bill: so now we're piecing this together the following way. we hear that russell last saw her husband on thursday, only hours before he died in a gunbattle with police in cambridge, massachusetts. she was handing off their 2-year-old daughter to stay with him while she went to work. again, that was thursday of last we
we'll talk to senator lindsey graham about this. he is coming up later this hour. bill: meanwhile, martha, a lawyer for tamerlan's widow, american widow is assisting and cooperating in the investigation. her family, the russell family in massachusetts, struggling to come to terms with his alleged involvement. this statement released through her attorney just late yesterday. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. as a mother,...
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do you think lindsey graham keeps objection general in his office? >> oh, my stars. >> stephanie: he has barely a moment to stop getting the vapors over something. nearly hardly recovered from his benghazi vapors when now he has the vapors over why this guy isn't being treated as an enemy combatant. did jay carney not say it completely like -- there's only one way to say it. it is against the law. he is a united states citizen that committed the crime. jay carney said we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. >> if the justice department had tried him as an enemy combatant lindsey graham would have said you're break the law. he's an american citizen. >> stephanie: why didn't we follow donald trump's idea of waterboarding him before he recovered from his throat injuries to see what kind of information we could have gotten. >> water board him while his head is underwater. if he doesn't answer, then we know he did it. >> stephanie: he's dead. no
do you think lindsey graham keeps objection general in his office? >> oh, my stars. >> stephanie: he has barely a moment to stop getting the vapors over something. nearly hardly recovered from his benghazi vapors when now he has the vapors over why this guy isn't being treated as an enemy combatant. did jay carney not say it completely like -- there's only one way to say it. it is against the law. he is a united states citizen that committed the crime. jay carney said we will...
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on lindsey graham gerald hunter says, once again, lindsey graham shows his dumb-ass face on fox news. i think the boston police and the fbi should come to south carolina and get this dumb ass, and make mark sanford and tim scott as a bonus. how can the people of south carolina be so stupid as to elect these idiots? well, the good news it looks like they may not reelect, mark sanford. that's a plus. [♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, and welcome, welcome to the "full court press" here on current tv this morning, wednesday april 24th. thanks for joining us, good to see you today, we have got lots to talk about, lots of news happening here in our nation's capitol, around the country and the globe, we'll bring you up to date on all of it no matter what it is we're there. we have got it covered. and we'll give you a chance to get involved in the conversation and tell us what it means to you and your family. 866-55-press is the toll-free number if you want to join us by phone. 866-557-7377. or you can join us on twitter, @bhshow, just make sure that your twitter account has not be
on lindsey graham gerald hunter says, once again, lindsey graham shows his dumb-ass face on fox news. i think the boston police and the fbi should come to south carolina and get this dumb ass, and make mark sanford and tim scott as a bonus. how can the people of south carolina be so stupid as to elect these idiots? well, the good news it looks like they may not reelect, mark sanford. that's a plus. [♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, and welcome, welcome to the "full court...
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she told lindsey graham something totally different. what is going on with this cabinet secretary? >> clearly it doesn't work when you have a bombing at the boston marathon and these people are dead and some injured. the system is designed to prevent something like that from happening. so it would be horrible to say the system worked. if you want to say law enforcement afterwards did a good job, i'm all for that. i think they did a fabulous job in catching the guys as quickly maybe as they could. but before hand, the system did not work. now, is that just because of it's so difficult to follow these things or were there specific things they could have done to prevent it? that's a serious question to be asked. >> brian: to finish up, we know the deputy f.b.i. director told senator graham that they misspelled his name, they had no record he was going over there. therefore, there was neaping. the homeland security -- pinging. napolitano says there was a ping. that bothers me that they're not on the same page. i'm not even judging them. but as a person who is an expert in leadership, w
she told lindsey graham something totally different. what is going on with this cabinet secretary? >> clearly it doesn't work when you have a bombing at the boston marathon and these people are dead and some injured. the system is designed to prevent something like that from happening. so it would be horrible to say the system worked. if you want to say law enforcement afterwards did a good job, i'm all for that. i think they did a fabulous job in catching the guys as quickly maybe as...
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. >> but senator lindsey graham said the fbi claimed to know nothing, yes, nothing about the trip and tonight the fbi and homeland security briefing lawmakers. congressman jason chase is on the house homeland security committee. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> can you clarify or do you know whether or not he mentioned going out of the united states? there's some confusion over what senator lindsay graham said and what the secretary said. >> i don't know what the secretary means when she said ping. what is clear to me from my past experience, the united states of america has no viable entry-exit system. we aren't able to track people as they leave and depart the country and when they come back in the country. sometimes we can see them and have visibility when they are traveling via air burke as we are seeing on the southwest border and up in canada, that's a real problem. when she says ping, against what? that's the key question. >> it must be when he boarded the plane using the passport. must be some manifest i would assume there's some database at that point b
. >> but senator lindsey graham said the fbi claimed to know nothing, yes, nothing about the trip and tonight the fbi and homeland security briefing lawmakers. congressman jason chase is on the house homeland security committee. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> can you clarify or do you know whether or not he mentioned going out of the united states? there's some confusion over what senator lindsay graham said and what the secretary said. >> i...
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what we are trying to achieve with lindsey graham and kelly, that is the most important thing. our priority should be not to punish these perpetrators, not to prosecute them, not to rehabilitate them. our main purpose should be that we have somebody in custody that may know of other terrorist plots and terrorist cells that has information that could save lives. can they get information from them? tell them that he has the right to remain silent and we are going to remain ignorant of the information that he has, even if that means that other people will be killed and a terrorist act in the future. it is a mistaken decision to say that we will remain ignorant. aside from all of the prosecution and issues. we are remaining ignorant right choice. >> officials say the boston bombing suspects are apparently motivated by religion. no terrorist group ties. -- brother's mastermind masterminded the attack. they worked independently. does that change your opinion? >> i have great respect for the media. i spent many years as a journalist. we get things wrong. how do we know? can you tell m
what we are trying to achieve with lindsey graham and kelly, that is the most important thing. our priority should be not to punish these perpetrators, not to prosecute them, not to rehabilitate them. our main purpose should be that we have somebody in custody that may know of other terrorist plots and terrorist cells that has information that could save lives. can they get information from them? tell them that he has the right to remain silent and we are going to remain ignorant of the...
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graham. >> the only thing you need to know about lindsey gram right now is that he's running for re-election. even though he knows better, even though he knows that dzhokhar, for example, is not going to be tried as an enemy combatant, even though he knows his allegations against the president are ridiculous, it's a way of him scoring political points. i'll say, you know, i don't think there's anything wrong as you were pointing out asking questions about, okay, did the fbi follow the right course here? >> the investigation. >> absolutely. but when you go for this nakedly political point instead, you actually undermine those sorts of honest investigations. because it turns it into political football rather than a real inquiry into what happened and if there was anything we could do or anything we could learn. >> i think, joan, there is a legitimate questions one could raise, whether i agree with them or you agree with them or not. >> right. >> but to rev up benghazi, too? it is clear they're trying to get all kind of old political points, mixing in with new questions. because what benghazi a
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. >> it's excruciating on somebody like rubio, on somebody like lindsey graham up for re-election. on somebody even like john mccain and jeff blake. so it's not impossible for this to occur, but it got a whole lot more difficult. >> joy, here's how the "national review" captured rubio's visit there. "it was striking to see how much he is personally admired by the colorful conservative pundits who broadcast on local a.m. stations, and by the biggest syndicated names like limbaugh. they still believe, without a doubt, that he's a top contender for the republican presidential nomination in 2016 and they love that he's already a national force. but when it comes to immigration, they're not buying it." >> yeah. >> why? >> well, because, you know, at the end of the day the o's at the end of rubio's first and last names are quite valuable to the republican party as an avatar for bringing in more hispanic voters. the ideas he's saying are not useful. it's been kind of pathetic to see marco rubio, supposedly this towering figure, latino ronald reagan of the republican party going hat in han
. >> it's excruciating on somebody like rubio, on somebody like lindsey graham up for re-election. on somebody even like john mccain and jeff blake. so it's not impossible for this to occur, but it got a whole lot more difficult. >> joy, here's how the "national review" captured rubio's visit there. "it was striking to see how much he is personally admired by the colorful conservative pundits who broadcast on local a.m. stations, and by the biggest syndicated names...
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i don't want to speak for lindsey graham or kelly ayotte, but i think what they would say is we would like absolutely to have the possibility. if there is ticking time bomb let's find out about it. miranda was put into place so you don't have coercion and false confessions under pressure. you don't want to have that but you can prevent that in earth ways too. you can videotape the entire proceeding but you also want to have a more thorough investigation, again because you want to know the methods that are being used. if one of the brothers went to chechnya as we think he did, and was trained by whom or what cells was he told to go back and do this. anytime of your own choosing? will you get a phone call to tell you to do it? was he in touch with other cells may not do something immediately but in three months and at that time people will be killed? i'm absolutely for constitutional questions but it was justice robert jackson who said the constitution is not a suicide pact. to choose not to know is wrong. i want to also raise one other thing and i think senator graham was quite right i
i don't want to speak for lindsey graham or kelly ayotte, but i think what they would say is we would like absolutely to have the possibility. if there is ticking time bomb let's find out about it. miranda was put into place so you don't have coercion and false confessions under pressure. you don't want to have that but you can prevent that in earth ways too. you can videotape the entire proceeding but you also want to have a more thorough investigation, again because you want to know the...
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graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights telling him to quote remain silent and then followed up by saying if captured i hope administration will lease consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes but some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling to actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos scumbag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on this punk to save more lives. i wouldn't and no one else that actually respects the rule of law and the constitution because guess what torture is illegal and it's never brought proper intel now it may not seem like that big of a deal to read a terrorist suspect his rights but ponder what glenn greenwald has said he said quote when you sheer for the erosion of your heart and rights you're cheering for the erosion of your own which is what we're already seen a mindset that has already allowed these rights to be taken for granted and compromised two years ago obama bypass congress to roll ba
graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights telling him to quote remain silent and then followed up by saying if captured i hope administration will lease consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes but some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling to actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos scumbag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use...
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senator lindsey graham republican of south carolina is a member of the judiciary committee and stepped out of a hearing to join us. nice to have you back on the program. >> thank you very much. jenna: let's talk a little bit about what you had to say about radical islam. you say yo we need to up our game. what specifically do you mean by upping our game against radical islam. >> the first thing we need to do is reject the narrative of this administration that osama bin laden is dead, the wars are receding and we are all safe. they've been trying to suggest since the death of osama bin laden that al-qaida is basically being dismantled, and the wars are receding. what i mean by upping our game? making sure that when the ambassador in libya tells the state department, and the department of defense, that al-qaida flags are flying over benghazi, i can't defend my consulate against a coordinated attack, that you do something about it. that when a consulate is under attack an and ambassador is missing for seven and a half hours you have the ability to go to their rescue, and after the fact yo
senator lindsey graham republican of south carolina is a member of the judiciary committee and stepped out of a hearing to join us. nice to have you back on the program. >> thank you very much. jenna: let's talk a little bit about what you had to say about radical islam. you say yo we need to up our game. what specifically do you mean by upping our game against radical islam. >> the first thing we need to do is reject the narrative of this administration that osama bin laden is...
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senator lindsey graham blamed a misspelling for the disconnect on dzhokhar tsarnaev's trip to russia. >> i think they did a good job of looking at him. the reason we didn't know he went to russia is because the name was misspelled. >> we are learning about a motive. officials say dzhokhar tsarnaev told investigators it was because of their religious views and not because of ties to terror groups. they got the instructions on how to make the bomb online. i want to bring in the huffington post managing editor amanda turkal. good morning. >> good morning. >> let's start with the congressional briefings. two of them today. what are we expecting? >> i think we -- there are a lot of unanswered questions in the context of the gun control debate. where did the guys get the guns? at the scene of the shootout there were explosives, hand guns and a rifle. did they get it legally or illegally? they did not have a license to own a firearm. how did they get this? a lot of unanswered questions. how much did we know about these guys before the boston bombing? it will be interesting to see what comes
senator lindsey graham blamed a misspelling for the disconnect on dzhokhar tsarnaev's trip to russia. >> i think they did a good job of looking at him. the reason we didn't know he went to russia is because the name was misspelled. >> we are learning about a motive. officials say dzhokhar tsarnaev told investigators it was because of their religious views and not because of ties to terror groups. they got the instructions on how to make the bomb online. i want to bring in the...
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lindsey graham and others will say it wasn't enough. not necessarily just 48 hours of vergation, but days and days if not weeks and weeks. that will be a sung for futubje future debate. just ahead, a check of other stories we're following, including serious delays at major airports across the country with fewer people in control towers. we're in store for a lot of waiting. back in a moment with that and all of the late developments out of boston. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history... we're making it. >>> welcome back to on a special "newsroom," live from boston. all on the latest on the investigation in a moment. other top stories making news on this tuesday. the tsa has postponed a controversial rule a
lindsey graham and others will say it wasn't enough. not necessarily just 48 hours of vergation, but days and days if not weeks and weeks. that will be a sung for futubje future debate. just ahead, a check of other stories we're following, including serious delays at major airports across the country with fewer people in control towers. we're in store for a lot of waiting. back in a moment with that and all of the late developments out of boston. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia......
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graham and janet napolitano. we will get into it more later. the gist of it is why didn't we know about tamerlan's trip to russia, given the fact that he had been -- he had been, you know, asked questions already by the fbi, and at one point janet napolitano in this hearing today suggested, well he pinged on the way out. we picked him up on the way out. mike levine sailed he was on a very large watch list not a terror watch list that doesn't have a whole lot of significance. the big thing here, bob is are we doing what we need to be doing in terms of keeping track of people who have been on the radar in this country, or are we throwing up our hands and saying we can't find anything on them so we are done with that. >> this is the third time the fbi has let people slip through their fingers. they interviewed the guy before he went to russia. then he went to russia in an area near chechnya and he was there for six months. at that point it would seem to me it would trigger something, somewhere along the line. martha
graham and janet napolitano. we will get into it more later. the gist of it is why didn't we know about tamerlan's trip to russia, given the fact that he had been -- he had been, you know, asked questions already by the fbi, and at one point janet napolitano in this hearing today suggested, well he pinged on the way out. we picked him up on the way out. mike levine sailed he was on a very large watch list not a terror watch list that doesn't have a whole lot of significance. the big thing here,...
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. >> steve: a lot of people, including lindsey graham r upset. some of the things that were detailed in the complaint came to us from the guy whose car was carjacked. for instance, you probably heard at one point one of the brothers said they were the boston marathon bombers and they wouldn't kill him because he was an american. so in other words, had it have been an american behind the wheel, they probably would have killed him. also, according to the guy who had the mercedes suv hijacked at gun point, at some point the brothers were talking about manhattan. keep in mind, they were talking in russian, so all he could pick up was manhattan. me they also had other bombs. were they headed somewhere else for a second wave? don't know. one other point and that's how were they able to track the car to watertown? the guy who was carjacked left his phone in the vehicle. they pinged it and that's how they found it. >> gretchen: why would they do this? we never really know why because it never makes sense, other than it looks like religion is the reason.
. >> steve: a lot of people, including lindsey graham r upset. some of the things that were detailed in the complaint came to us from the guy whose car was carjacked. for instance, you probably heard at one point one of the brothers said they were the boston marathon bombers and they wouldn't kill him because he was an american. so in other words, had it have been an american behind the wheel, they probably would have killed him. also, according to the guy who had the mercedes suv...
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as some republican senators includes lindsey graham called for. senator graham challenged them saying the decision they made premature. let's listen. >> here's my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years, civilian and military, i strongly support the concept that no criminal defendant should ever be required to incriminate themselves while they're in custody of the government. every nation at war should have the ability to defend themselves by gathering intelligence. these are not mutually exclusive concepts. i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam defined as the taliban, al qaeda, and affiliated groups. the question i have regarding this case, is there any association between these two individuals and the groups i just named, to allow enemy combatant status to be conferred upon the suspect in boston? >> let's drill down on the legal status of the boston bombing suspect. kendall coffey. the great jonathan turley, here in washington. thank you for this. can they decide later if a piece of evidence shows up a week from now, that sho
as some republican senators includes lindsey graham called for. senator graham challenged them saying the decision they made premature. let's listen. >> here's my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years, civilian and military, i strongly support the concept that no criminal defendant should ever be required to incriminate themselves while they're in custody of the government. every nation at war should have the ability to defend themselves by gathering intelligence. these are not mutually...
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. >> what i thought was interesting, if i understand senator lindsey graham correctly, is what he was proposing is by making him an enemy combatant, that he would be turned over to the military to be questioned for a period, 30 days, and whatever he said during that 30 days could not be used against him when he gets turned back over for a federal trial. i think that's what he said. you know, which is different than what i think some people thought he meant originally. but anyway, i also thought it was interesting that the defendant is, according to the magistrate, and we have a copy of the transcript from the court hearing today, is that he is alert, mentally competent, and lucid. they did talk to him a little bit. i guess they might have got some information out of him the last day or so, would you expect? >> you know, i think what we have to do here, greta, as you are pointing out, is to separate the whole notion of what would be admissible in a criminal trial. i think there's very little doubt that he will be found guilty in a criminal trial; that he very likely will receive the de
. >> what i thought was interesting, if i understand senator lindsey graham correctly, is what he was proposing is by making him an enemy combatant, that he would be turned over to the military to be questioned for a period, 30 days, and whatever he said during that 30 days could not be used against him when he gets turned back over for a federal trial. i think that's what he said. you know, which is different than what i think some people thought he meant originally. but anyway, i also...
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senator lindsey graham and senator talked about obama not try him as an enemy combatants. it was said to see him go, he was a fine figure and a state senator, isn't it? >> al a high state legislature is much more sophisticated than we saw here today. >> let's talk about lindsey graham. sang the government should have left dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combat and, at least on the table as a possibility. >> it is not permissible under the law. you cannot treat an american citizen who is accused of committing an american crime against mostly american citizens in boston as an enemy combatants. it would turn our country -- >> it has never happened before. >> into martial law. the supreme court struck that down and american citizens were charged with crimes and this fellow is being charged with an ordinary crime that anybody could be charged with the team made a bomb to kill his mother-in-law. it does not require any allegation of terrorism. the idea we can deny and trial by jury, speedy trial, all of the things in the constitution and the bill of rights provides would turn our
senator lindsey graham and senator talked about obama not try him as an enemy combatants. it was said to see him go, he was a fine figure and a state senator, isn't it? >> al a high state legislature is much more sophisticated than we saw here today. >> let's talk about lindsey graham. sang the government should have left dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combat and, at least on the table as a possibility. >> it is not permissible under the law. you cannot treat an american...
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graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights time to quote remain silent and then a follow up by saying if captured i hope administration will least consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos come bag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on this punk to save more lives. i wouldn't and no one else that actually respects the rule of law and the constitution because guess what torture is illegal and it's never brought proper intel now it may not seem like that big of a deal to read a terrorist suspect his rights but ponder what glenn greenwald has said he said quote when you cheer for the erosion of your heart and rights you're cheering for the erosion of your own which is what we're already seen a mindset that has already allowed these rights to be taken for granted and compromised two years ago obama bypass congress to roll back miranda righ
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today senator lindsey graham urged the white house to reconsider its decision. >> i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option if the effort warrants to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. the ability to have access to this suspect without a lawyer present together intelligence about a future attack is absolutely essential to our national security. >> democratic congressman adam shift, a member of the house intelligence committee is "outfront" and he is also a former federal prosecutor. we now that dzhokhar, suspect number two, has been read his miranda rights. sow won't be designated as an enemy combatant. but if he was labelled an enemy combatant, he wouldn't have been entitled to a lawyer and a jury trial. they could have asked him a lot of other questions without a lawyer present that may or may not be relevant to national security. now why did they make this decision not to go for enemy combatant status? do they think they have so much evidence in this case that they can go ahead with the civilian jury trial and they don't need to hide behind enemy combatant?
today senator lindsey graham urged the white house to reconsider its decision. >> i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option if the effort warrants to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. the ability to have access to this suspect without a lawyer present together intelligence about a future attack is absolutely essential to our national security. >> democratic congressman adam shift, a member of the house intelligence committee is...
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lindsey graham actually wrote the law. i mean, he wrote the act and they don't go to military commissions. i think we are talking apples and oranges here. >> we have a lot of confusion here. this is where i disagree with juan. cases going back to the civil war. the president has the authority to declare somebody an enemy combatant. all that means when you talk to them. anything they tell you in the context of intelligence gathering cannot be used against them in a court of flaw a criminal proceeding. that's what the constitution says is that you have a right not to be compelled to incriminate yourself in a criminal proceeding. intelligence gathering thing there are all sorts of ways where you wall off what you get from his intelligence gathering. not poison a criminal case and every lawyer that has looked at this has said they don't need a confession from this guy. they have so much evidence that the idea that somehow if he tells them something he might get off no one thinks that's a possibility. i think, you know, jane ha
lindsey graham actually wrote the law. i mean, he wrote the act and they don't go to military commissions. i think we are talking apples and oranges here. >> we have a lot of confusion here. this is where i disagree with juan. cases going back to the civil war. the president has the authority to declare somebody an enemy combatant. all that means when you talk to them. anything they tell you in the context of intelligence gathering cannot be used against them in a court of flaw a criminal...
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. >> michael: even after that announcement, republican senator, lindsey graham just wouldn't let it go and held a press conference to criticize the decision. >> the ability to talk to individuals who may know about terrorist organizations plotting our future demise is a long-held concept under the law of war. i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option if the evidence warrants to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. >> michael: despite his protestations, tsarnaev will be tried as a civilian. the charges against him are very serious. the u.s. attorney charged him with, quote . . . the complaint cites video evidence showing, dzhokhar tsarnaev placing a backpack at the scene and then crossing the street with a cell phone in his left hand. he surveyed the crowd including the 8-year-old boy who died. he takes a picture of the scene holds the phone to his ear, and 18 seconds later the bomb went off. joining us now president and founder of the group terror free tomorrow and the author of the book "terrorists in love." thank for joining us here in "the war room,
. >> michael: even after that announcement, republican senator, lindsey graham just wouldn't let it go and held a press conference to criticize the decision. >> the ability to talk to individuals who may know about terrorist organizations plotting our future demise is a long-held concept under the law of war. i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option if the evidence warrants to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. >> michael: despite his...
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when you have senators like lindsey graham saying that the suspect should be tried as an enemy combatant and then "the new york times" comes back with an editorial -- "mr. graham's reckless statement makes a mockery of the superb civilian police work that led to the suspect's capture, starting with the skillful analysis of the video recordings of the marathon. there is no reason that the lawyers and courts cannot continue to do their work." what do thou sayeth, kelly. >> they have a long history of prosecuting terrorism cases before and after 9/11. i think it's important when we are talking about a united states citizen where the conduct is principally here in the united states. i think the administration got it just right here. >> he a i see you nodding. >> i would second bet in the conversation that's going on right now, exacerbating fears in this country. terrorists aren't going after territory. they are going after the creation of fear, panic, and disruption of the system. we allow them to rip apart our constitution and they win. >> catherine crier and kelly cu ar rrie, thank you for
when you have senators like lindsey graham saying that the suspect should be tried as an enemy combatant and then "the new york times" comes back with an editorial -- "mr. graham's reckless statement makes a mockery of the superb civilian police work that led to the suspect's capture, starting with the skillful analysis of the video recordings of the marathon. there is no reason that the lawyers and courts cannot continue to do their work." what do thou sayeth, kelly....
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. >> i want to play for you what republican senator lindsey graham said after the white house announced earlier in the day that the survivining suspec the 19-year-old, would not be questioned as an enemy combat t combatant. listen to this. >> i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option, if the evidence warrants, to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. what do we know? we know that these two individuals embrace radical islamist thought, that there's ample evidence this was an attack inspired by radical ideology, they were not trying to rob a bank in boston. >> what do you think about that, congressman? >> well, fifrst thing, i respec the senator's point of view, but i disagree. number one, you have to look at the legal aspect of this. when that provision that you don't have to give miranda rights is used, that -- you have to show a connection to al qaeda. in this situation, we at this point have no connection to al qaeda whatsoever. so the other issue is, this is an american citizen. when you have an american citizen, you have rights. pursuant to our const
. >> i want to play for you what republican senator lindsey graham said after the white house announced earlier in the day that the survivining suspec the 19-year-old, would not be questioned as an enemy combat t combatant. listen to this. >> i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option, if the evidence warrants, to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. what do we know? we know that these two individuals embrace radical islamist thought, that there's...
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>>> and why is senator lindsey graham upset at the nation? stay with us. >>> i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam, the taliban, al qaeda and affiliated groups. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're wel
>>> and why is senator lindsey graham upset at the nation? stay with us. >>> i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam, the taliban, al qaeda and affiliated groups. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health...
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some g.o.p.makers, including lindsey graham, say doing so may help theofeds gather evidence. a little more than ten minutes ago cities and towns across the country joined boston in a moment of silence. >> shepard: the terror attack killed three people and wounded more than 170 others. for ten of the victims the bombings cost them an arm or leg. we have team fox coverage. adam houseley at the hospital where the suspect is in'm custody. first congratulate ran, this debate, what is this? >> republicans senator lindsey graham who wrote the military commissions act said, just like the administration, there is no option to pursue a military trial for dzhokar tsarnaev because he is an american citizen. but there's another legal option to clear the 19-year-old enemy combatant or enemy belligerent for purpose of evidence gathering. >> under the law of war there's no right to legal counsel when you're being questioned for national security purposes. so i hope the obama administration will allow that exception and they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling report
some g.o.p.makers, including lindsey graham, say doing so may help theofeds gather evidence. a little more than ten minutes ago cities and towns across the country joined boston in a moment of silence. >> shepard: the terror attack killed three people and wounded more than 170 others. for ten of the victims the bombings cost them an arm or leg. we have team fox coverage. adam houseley at the hospital where the suspect is in'm custody. first congratulate ran, this debate, what is this?...
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[ whip cracks ] >>> we want to take to you a press conference with senator lindsey graham. he is taking issue with the decision to declare dzhokhar tsarnaev not an enemy combatant. >> military commission trial are not available in cases like this. i wrote the 2009 military commission act. i've been a judge advocate for over 30 years along with the help of many colleagues, we have created a military commission system for foreign terrorists. we purposely excluded american citizens. i have all the confidence in the world in article iii courts at the federal level. they do a terrific job. i have confidence in our military commission system. the decision by the administration to not proceed into state court in massachusetts, i think, was the correct decision. the death penalty will be available at the federal level. this is clearly in my view a candidate for a case to be deemed an act of terrorism. here is my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years, civilian and military, i support the concept that no one should be required to incriminate themselves while they're in the custody o
[ whip cracks ] >>> we want to take to you a press conference with senator lindsey graham. he is taking issue with the decision to declare dzhokhar tsarnaev not an enemy combatant. >> military commission trial are not available in cases like this. i wrote the 2009 military commission act. i've been a judge advocate for over 30 years along with the help of many colleagues, we have created a military commission system for foreign terrorists. we purposely excluded american citizens....
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i think gram gram overstated the argument, you're right. -- lindsey graham. you're a terrorist attempting to be member of a sleeper cell it is unclear you will necessarily surface as this proposed new law requires you to do and make yourself known to authorities. on the other hand here is the ironic thing. in a way the bill could make us safer from this perspective. the two brothers came here when their family came here. their family came here look like they had other families already here. the parents of two the brothers had a brother, their uncle already here in the united states and they therefore appear like they might have come here, they got extra points for already having relatives here in the united states. this is called chained migration. if you got a family member here, whether it is an uncle, an aunt, father, mother, grandfather, cousin, whatever, you get a little bit extra oomph in the line in order to get here and the new law being proposed by the "gang of eight" would dial back immigration based on family considerations and dial up immigration
i think gram gram overstated the argument, you're right. -- lindsey graham. you're a terrorist attempting to be member of a sleeper cell it is unclear you will necessarily surface as this proposed new law requires you to do and make yourself known to authorities. on the other hand here is the ironic thing. in a way the bill could make us safer from this perspective. the two brothers came here when their family came here. their family came here look like they had other families already here. the...
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lindsey graham says we need to up our game. we're still at war. now there's the big debate on spending right now. is this the time that to cut homeland security spending or to go after that budget or what is your view on that? because you know for two years now you've been talking about debt and deficit spending. and in this sense it all ties back together. >> well, what's driving our spending and driving our debt is the fact that there are 10,000 baby boomers like me retiring every day. 70,000 this week. 3.5 million this year. social security, medicare, there is no money there in those fund. it has all been spent. people are living longer, accessing medicaid. so the real drivers of the debt primarily are our big entitlement programs that won't survive in their current form unless we make some changes. so it has got, it really has nothing to do with what we call the discretionary spending pot. bill: understood. homeland security spending is not touched? >> we have the sequester because the president won't get serious about solving our big spending
lindsey graham says we need to up our game. we're still at war. now there's the big debate on spending right now. is this the time that to cut homeland security spending or to go after that budget or what is your view on that? because you know for two years now you've been talking about debt and deficit spending. and in this sense it all ties back together. >> well, what's driving our spending and driving our debt is the fact that there are 10,000 baby boomers like me retiring every day....
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so i don't really see lindsey graham's proposal as all that differentwhat's going on now. he seems to suggest a longer process of questioning him, but the obama administration has also committed to some period of questioning. now, this all assumes that he's willing to answer questions. can he always samp simply say it answering questions and there is no way either under enemy combatant rules or in the criminal justice system to force someone to answer questions who doesn't want to answer them. >> the argument i guess is under this limited questioning period before he is formally advised of his miranda rights, he has and right to an attorney, doesn't have to answer any questions. there has been some suggestion that can only last maybe 48 hours or so if he's formally named an enemy combatant, that would go on for days if not weeks. i guess that's the distinction. >> it's the length of time. right. the enemy combatant, if that designation were made, could go on for weeks or even months. but i just think it's important to emphasize that the obama administration has absolutely
so i don't really see lindsey graham's proposal as all that differentwhat's going on now. he seems to suggest a longer process of questioning him, but the obama administration has also committed to some period of questioning. now, this all assumes that he's willing to answer questions. can he always samp simply say it answering questions and there is no way either under enemy combatant rules or in the criminal justice system to force someone to answer questions who doesn't want to answer them....
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. >> lindsey graham is doing a whole bunch of talk radio this morning. it's clear to me, we know why they probably booked all these interviews. because they're worried that this is where the immigration issue could percolate where all of the sudden the connection to boston happens. >> i think it also shows that compared to the last time around in '06 and '07 the republicans who were for this type of legislation are a lot more active in trying to engage with the conservative critics. >> dan, that does seem to be a huge difference before, they would lament maybe to you in interviews. but they wouldn't actively try to fix this. >> yeah. you know, they're pushing forward in a way they weren't before. they're much more confident about the reasons why they're doing this. and they're -- they feel much less defensive about it when they're being criticized by their own people. >> at the press conference amongst the most eloquent were marco rubio. the marco rubio. >> you were there. richard. this was the most fascinating -- >> it's a definition of kumbaya. >> it g
. >> lindsey graham is doing a whole bunch of talk radio this morning. it's clear to me, we know why they probably booked all these interviews. because they're worried that this is where the immigration issue could percolate where all of the sudden the connection to boston happens. >> i think it also shows that compared to the last time around in '06 and '07 the republicans who were for this type of legislation are a lot more active in trying to engage with the conservative critics....
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it is like -- lindsey graham and john mccain saying these guys were international terrorists. to me, they're domestic terrorists. >> stephanie: again as legal experts have said, james that's a nonstarter. dzhokhar, the guy in the hospital is an american citizen committed on american soil. you can't try them as enemy combatants. you just can't. another '70s perfume for men? >> drakkar noir was '80s. >> stephanie: i would like to thank chris lavoie, jim ward, t-bone on phones and drums jacki, courtney, the whole gang over at current tv. dzhokhar. okay. >> i come from france. >> stephanie: see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."
it is like -- lindsey graham and john mccain saying these guys were international terrorists. to me, they're domestic terrorists. >> stephanie: again as legal experts have said, james that's a nonstarter. dzhokhar, the guy in the hospital is an american citizen committed on american soil. you can't try them as enemy combatants. you just can't. another '70s perfume for men? >> drakkar noir was '80s. >> stephanie: i would like to thank chris lavoie, jim ward, t-bone on phones...
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graham who say tsarnaev should be consideredn enemy combatant so he can waive his right. others disagree. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need it to get him into a trial. i don't think we have to cross the line and say he's an enemy combatant which could be challenged in court. one circuit rules one way, one rules the other way. >> we should reserve the right to look at him as an enemy combatant and continue to look for evidence and if we find evidence and go to him as chuck says and gather intelligence. >> now the suspect's mother says tamer lan was contacted by fbi. the fbi says that is not true but the fbi did interview him in 2011 at the request of the russian government. officials are focusing on a trip he made to russia in 2012. sky news's katie stallard has more. katie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. yes, we knew that tamerlan traveled to russia in january of last year, they husband with in the country for around six months and during the time he eled to caucasus region. that area might not be popular to all of your viewers but it's a particular
graham who say tsarnaev should be consideredn enemy combatant so he can waive his right. others disagree. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need it to get him into a trial. i don't think we have to cross the line and say he's an enemy combatant which could be challenged in court. one circuit rules one way, one rules the other way. >> we should reserve the right to look at him as an enemy combatant and continue to look for evidence and if we find evidence and go to him as...
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. >> there's some talk in washington, senator lindsey graham among others, saying that he should be treated as an enemy combatant, at least for a time, to get as much information as they can during the investigation. what's your feeling on that? >> well, i think, first of all, you need the right facts in order to be able to charge that. the federal government is still determining what was the motive of these two young men. are they connected to anybody else? until they do that work, until we finish this investigation, that question may even be premature, unless you have a basis for it. i do think that the federal government has had a good track record in civil cases here, understanding what forum people should be in in order to get the best information. but i think we have to be confident. i am, having worked with them this week, is that they're focused on getting information they need to bring the appropriate charges. they can always be updated. and i think that they will make the right decision based upon what they know about this investigation. >> we heard from the boston police commissi
. >> there's some talk in washington, senator lindsey graham among others, saying that he should be treated as an enemy combatant, at least for a time, to get as much information as they can during the investigation. what's your feeling on that? >> well, i think, first of all, you need the right facts in order to be able to charge that. the federal government is still determining what was the motive of these two young men. are they connected to anybody else? until they do that work,...
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what some advocates, republicans, are saying such as lindsey graham are -- we understand, they say, we understand he's going to be tried in civilian court but start the questioning -- treat him as an enemy combatant under the law of war. question him by intelligence people. get all the intel you can. then turn him over to the civ civilian authorities. that's what they advocate. that's not going to happen, the administration has decided. he'll be questioned first by this special group set up in the last couple of years in terror cases called the high value detainee interrogation group, fbi cia, dod. they don't have a long time to do that, probably no more than a day or so. then he'll be begin his miranda warning and we'll see if he continues to talk. in other terrorism cases, surprisingly, these people do keep talking. >> mike rogers, chairman, do you have a view how he should be treated in the criminal justice system? >> he's a citizen of the united states. i think that brings all of those protections of the u.s. constitution under the public safety exception, however, i do believe tha
what some advocates, republicans, are saying such as lindsey graham are -- we understand, they say, we understand he's going to be tried in civilian court but start the questioning -- treat him as an enemy combatant under the law of war. question him by intelligence people. get all the intel you can. then turn him over to the civ civilian authorities. that's what they advocate. that's not going to happen, the administration has decided. he'll be questioned first by this special group set up in...
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lindsey graham was on of the chat shows yesterday, said absolutely. this guy is not a common criminal. he was out to kill americans. what do you think? enemy combatant? >> well, there are some people who think that enemy commits an act of terrorism should be tried in our criminal carts and others think they should be designated as enemy combatants. it's complicated question and seems to me what this administration should be looking at is what is the best way to get this person -- to bring him to justice, and also the best route to insure that we get the best information we can because that information could be helpful in prehave noting additional attacks in the future and that could provide answers which could bring some measure of closure to the victims as the families. i suspect what's going on now is you're having a talk in the administration looking at all the information and deciding what's the best way to treat both of those objectives. >> steve: at this point it sounds like what the government is doing is using the public safety exemption where
lindsey graham was on of the chat shows yesterday, said absolutely. this guy is not a common criminal. he was out to kill americans. what do you think? enemy combatant? >> well, there are some people who think that enemy commits an act of terrorism should be tried in our criminal carts and others think they should be designated as enemy combatants. it's complicated question and seems to me what this administration should be looking at is what is the best way to get this person -- to bring...
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lindsey graham has said there are two possible ways that the fbi dropped the ball on this. first, it could have been a systemic failure in the sense that the procedures were following up on these warnings were floored or secondly there was some individual floor related to this. >> briefly, because you have said that, look, despite the fact that this may now have russia sort of saying, look, we tried to warn the u.s., look at that relationship between russia and chechnya, just because the u.s. and russia have to communicate about this issue, that it could help relations between these two countries. >> that's something we can see going forward. u.s.-russian relations have been terrible the last few years. a travel ban and asset freeze on senior russian officials and the russians retaliated with a sisir ban on u.s. officials linked with guantanamo bay. >> and he's u.s. adoptions. >> u.s. adoptions, exactly. there's indications that relations could be warming and is we have the winter olympics next year in sochi. >> we'll need a lot of international cooperation on security, as
lindsey graham has said there are two possible ways that the fbi dropped the ball on this. first, it could have been a systemic failure in the sense that the procedures were following up on these warnings were floored or secondly there was some individual floor related to this. >> briefly, because you have said that, look, despite the fact that this may now have russia sort of saying, look, we tried to warn the u.s., look at that relationship between russia and chechnya, just because the...
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i know he's got his view of senator lindsey graham's comments. i welcome judge napolitano, senior judicial analyst for fox news. judge, do we designate this guy enemy combatant or treat him through the criminal justice system? >> well, first good evening, governor. it's a pleasure to be on your show. thanks for having me. senator graham is well known to many of us at fox. he's also a friend of mine. no one can question his motivation. but we'll start with a couple of basics. the first is that the constitution is the supreme law of the land. how do we know that? it says it in the constitution. the second is everybody who works for the government -- you did this when you were the governor of a, i di arkansas, in i was a superior court of new jersey -- takes an oath. the proper procedure here is to prosecute the surviving of the two brothers in the federal district court, probably not in boston. i don't know how he can get a fair trial in boston, but in some federal district court somewhere that has jurisdiction over these crimes. remember, tim mcve
i know he's got his view of senator lindsey graham's comments. i welcome judge napolitano, senior judicial analyst for fox news. judge, do we designate this guy enemy combatant or treat him through the criminal justice system? >> well, first good evening, governor. it's a pleasure to be on your show. thanks for having me. senator graham is well known to many of us at fox. he's also a friend of mine. no one can question his motivation. but we'll start with a couple of basics. the first is...
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>> let me give a shout-out to marco rubio and john mccain and lindsey graham who aren't backing down. some free advice to the republican party. republican party lost the hispanic vote. if there isn't some effort to reach out for a lot of the people who live in this country you can kiss off any chance, bill, for any foreseeable future -- >> chris: yeah, bill. [ laughter ] let me say on bill's defense he is pro-immigration reform. >> i'm more skeptical of it now than i was six or seven months ago for this reason, with all due respect. let's have serious public policy arguments about this and begin asking how this man who has been reported to the f.b.i. in 2011, went abroad six or seven months came back and had russian passport. and no problem at all. maybe someone should look at that and look at the border security before we move ahead with 880-page immigration bill. >> the bill is based on border security. >> would it help -- >> we should ask these questions and we should maybe have more detailed questions asked for people who come from certain countries, yes. >> we agree on that. >> c
>> let me give a shout-out to marco rubio and john mccain and lindsey graham who aren't backing down. some free advice to the republican party. republican party lost the hispanic vote. if there isn't some effort to reach out for a lot of the people who live in this country you can kiss off any chance, bill, for any foreseeable future -- >> chris: yeah, bill. [ laughter ] let me say on bill's defense he is pro-immigration reform. >> i'm more skeptical of it now than i was six...